Moss' Mix of Ed's Red cleaner-lubricant

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Moss' Mix of Ed's Red cleaner-lubricant

Postby GOSA » Fri, 2008-03-07 07:59


Peters blend of Ed's Red
Acetone ... 1
Mineral spirit - Turps substitute ... 1
Kerosene - 40% petrol + 60% illuminating paraffin ... 1
ATF - Engen Xtreme 5W-40 ... 1
Lanolin ... 0

Note 1 (one) measure (volume) of each. I did not mix up a life
times supply but used a measuring cup of about 50ml to give me
200ml of mixed end product.

All solvents are industrial grade. Turps substitute of mineral
spirit and Acetone are available at hardware supply shops
(expensive) of chemical wholesale companies. Many of these will
sell in 1L containers.

Kerosene or power paraffin is not available. Illuminating
paraffin is widely available as is petrol ;-) Engen garages for
the synthetic oil. I don't see why other manufactures synthetic
oils will not work as well.

This will keep the original objective of polar and nonpolar
solvents but obviously the characteristics change with each
different solvent.

A milder version may be made by substituting propanol, IPA or
Isopropyl Alcohol for the acetone. More aggressive Methyl Ethyl
Ketone (MEK). This stuff will strip paint. Use gloves. Ethyl
Acetate (a glue and varnish solvent) is another that could be

The kerosene can also be substituted with Benzene or petrol. It
will also produce a highly flammable product.

Know your solvents and read the MDS on each before playing mad
chemist please. Now we need a chemist to figure out what
combination will be great with nitro powder residues and
possibly good with BP stuff as well.


Acetone (also known as propanone, dimethyl ketone, 2-propanone,
propan-2-one and -ketopropane) is a colorless, mobile,
flammable liquid. It is the simplest example of the ketones.
Acetone is miscible with water, ethanol, ether, etc., and itself
serves as an important solvent. The most familiar household use
of acetone is as the active ingredient in nail polish remover.
Acetone is also used to make plastic, fibers, drugs, and other

Acetone can also dissolve many plastics, including those used in
Nalgene bottles made of polystyrene, polycarbonate and some
types of polypropylene. Because of acetone's medium polarity,
it dissolves a wide range of compounds. Thus, it is commonly
loaded into squeezebottles and used as a general solvent in
rinsing laboratory glassware.s

Propanol: There are two isomers of propanol. If the isomer is
unstated, it is more likely to refer to propan-1-ol.

* Propan-1-ol (or n-propanol)
* Propan-2-ol (or isopropyl alcohol, or isopropanol)

Propan-1-ol is a primary alcohol with the formula CH3CH2CH2OH.
It is also known as 1-propanol, 1-propyl alcohol, n-propyl
alcohol, or simply propanol. It is an isomer of propan-2-ol. It
is used as a solvent in the pharmaceutical industry, and for
resins and cellulose esters

Isopropyl alcohol (also isopropanol, iso, rubbing alcohol, or
the abbreviation IPA) is a common name for 2-propanol, a
colorless, flammable chemical compound with a strong odor. It
has the chemical formula C3H8O and is the simplest example of a
secondary alcohol, where the alcohol carbon is attached to two
other carbons. It is an isomer of propanol.

Isopropyl alcohol is also commonly used as a cleaner and solvent
in industry. It is also a very good cleaning agent and often
used for cleaning electronic devices such as contact pins (like
those on ROM cartridges), magnetic tape deck and floppy disk
drive heads, the lenses of lasers in optical disc drives (e.g.
CD, DVD) and removing thermal paste from CPUs. It is also used
to clean LCD and glass computer monitor screens (at some risk to
the anti-reflection coating of the screen), and used by many
music shops to give second-hand or worn records newer looking
sheens. It cleans white boards very well and other unwanted ink
related marks. Isopropyl alcohol also works well at removing
smudges, dirt, and fingerprints from cell phones and PDAs. It is
effective at removing residual glue from sticky labels.

Ethyl acetate is a moderately polar solvent that has the
advantages of being volatile, relatively non-toxic, and non-
hygroscopic. It is a weak hydrogen bond acceptor, and is not a
donor due to the lack of an acidic proton (one directly bonded
to an electronegative atom such as fluorine, oxygen, or
nitrogen). Ethyl acetate can dissolve up to 3% water and has a
solubility of 8% in water at room temperature. At elevated
temperature its solubility in water is higher. It is unstable in
the presence of strong aqueous bases and acids.

Ethyl acetate is primarily used as a solvent. For example, it is
commonly used to dissolve the pigments for nail varnishes, and
is responsible for the solvent-effect of some nail varnish
remover (acetone and acetonitrile are also used).

Butanone is a manufactured organic chemical. It is a colorless
liquid with a sharp, sweet odor. It is a ketone, also known as
methyl ethyl ketone (MEK). It dissolves many substances and is
used as a solvent in processes involving gums, resins, cellulose
acetate and nitrocellulose coatings and in vinyl films. It is
also used in the synthetic rubber industry, It is used in
manufacturing plastics, textiles, in the production of paraffin
wax, and in household products such as lacquer, varnishes, paint
remover, a denaturing agent for denatured alcohol, glues and as
a cleaning agent. It is highly flammable. It is not considered a
large health threat. Read the MDS.

Some thoughts on lubricants

My guess is that ATF was originally chosen as this is a sperm
oil replacement. Processed sperm oil was widely used in watch,
clock and guns. ATF is not a fantastic lubricant as the
workings of an automatic transmission require that the selector
bands grip. So the boundary lubricant properties are not great.
A firearm relies on boundary lubrication. Which is why the
original added lanolin to the mix. Synthetic motor oil is a
good all round lubricant and is used by many for clocks and


Because Acetone and others mentioned are good solvents which
will attack oiled and some varnish finishes keep it off the wood
work. Note some plastics may be harmed by alcohol and petro
chemicals as well.

Seems to work a treat leaving a very fine layer of good
lubricant as well. Penetrates the smallest openings and joints.

Not tested as I don't have any filthy guns or shoot much these
days. Copper removal unknown. Lead removal unknown. It is not
formulated for either so I would not expect much. Powder
residues are removed. I did not bother to lub my 357 S&W after
cleaning as this does a fine job.

Anyone in my neck of the woods is welcome to pop around and test
it out. Bring your own cleaning kit and dirty firearm.
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